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Dragon.ee foorum • Vaata teemat - Sõnatõlked
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Re: Sõnatõlked

PostitusPostitatud: 13:56 14. Mai 2009
Postitas TavalineKääbik
Minu teadmiste järgi on ka härjapõlvlane siiski gnoomi taoline, mitte päkapikk, aga muidugi võin ka eksida. Olen suhteliselt algaja :)

Re: Sõnatõlked

PostitusPostitatud: 16:00 14. Mai 2009
Postitas Irve
Kui "Kääbik" oleks dwarfi härjapõlvlaseks tõlkinud, naeraks kõik hästi põhjendatud kaalutlustels päkapikk = dwarf tõlke välja ja põhjendaksid seda umbes nii:
"Kamoon, dwarf on tugev nagu härg ja ongi enamvähem härja põlveni pikkusega. Miks ma peaksin seda elukat mingi jõuluvana päka pikkuste elukate nimega kutsuma?"

Sellest hullemaks saab minna ainult Sõrmuste Isanda filmi esimese osa tõlge, kus need peletised pöialpoisteks nimetati.

Mõistagi võitlen tuuleveskitega ja kutsun neid peletisi ise ka päkapikeks ja härjapõlvlasteks segiläbi.

Re: Sõnatõlked

PostitusPostitatud: 2:11 15. Mai 2009
Postitas Ove
Ma arvan, et kui esimeses ('76 aasta, kui ma ei eksi) "Kääbiku" tõlkes oleks kasutatud sõna "dwarf" tõlkena härjapõlvlast, siis naeraks me end ribadeks, kui keegi mõtleks neid kleptomaanidest jõuluvana abiliste pähe esitleda. Kõik on kinni harjumuses...

Küll aga on mulle jäänud meelde, et härjapõlvlased olid enamasti mingit masti seotud Eesti maa-alustega, kellel minu teada habet mitte ei olnud... See on muidugi tugevalt spekulatiivne jutt...

Re: Sõnatõlked

PostitusPostitatud: 20:30 17. Mai 2009
Postitas Irve
Ilmselt muinasjututõlke ja sõna praeguse tähenduse kohaselt oleks härjapõlvlane leperchaun.

Siis oleks dwarf lihtsalt kääbus :)

Re: Sõnatõlked

PostitusPostitatud: 13:03 18. Mai 2009
Postitas mart
Ei miski võim, ei miski vägi murra
neid vorme mis on mündit' korra.


Kääbus on tõepoolest korrektne tõlge, aga siis on meil kääbused ja kääbikud.
Ma oletan, et inimene, kes Kääbiku esimese tõlke tegi, valis nimetuse illustratsiooni järgi.
Illustratsioonide peal meenutavad nad tõepoolest "jõuluvana abilisi".

Vaatasin ka päkapiku definitsiooni wikipeediast: "Päkapikud on pisikest kasvu haldjate soost jõuluvana abilised ja laste head sõbrad. Jõulude ajal (detsembris) aitavad Jõuluvana kingituste pakkimisel ja laialijagamisel (sussi või soki sisse) - seda tehakse üldiselt öösiti. Muul ajal hoolitsevad aga metsloomade eest.
Enamasti riietuvad päkapikud punasesse ning kannavad pikki punaseid mütse, mille ots on valge."

Re: Sõnatõlked

PostitusPostitatud: 6:00 16. Jaan 2010
Postitas KEK