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3.5e grapple->trip?

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3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Brutus 16:30 17. Dets 2007

tekkis ühes mängus selline vaidlus: kui combatis 2 tüüpi grapplevad ja siis tuleb kolmas kutt, kes ründab ühte grapplejat ja tripib teda, mis siis täpselt saab? kas õnnestunud tripi korral kukub ainult 1 grappleja (keda ta tripis) või mõlemad (kuna tegemist on siiski ju rüseluse,maadlusega) ?

märgin selguse huvides veel ära et tegemist oli 3.5e DnD reeglitega.
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Udutont 17:49 17. Dets 2007

RPG reeglid on üksnes abivahend mängijatele (ennekõike mängujuhile). Need ei kata kaugeltki kõiki situatsioone ning vahel viib reeglijärgmine absurdini. D&D pole erand, mis siis, et selles süsteemis on combati reeglid suhteliselt lauamängulikud ja detailsed. Minu arvates ei ole sellele küsimusele üht õiget mängutehnilist vastust. Võiks nt otsustada, et a)mõlemad on prone b)tegelane, kellele trip tehti on prone, teine jääb püsti, kuid grapple lõppeb automaatselt; c) tegelane, kellele trip tehti on prone, teine jääb püsti (nt pikali olev tegelane hoiab kinni jalgadest või vööst) jne Õige vastus sõltub sellest, mida grupp õigeks (ehk veenvaks) vastuseks peab. Õige vastuse leidmiseks aitab see, kui lahingu käigus toimuvat kirjeldatakse sisuliselt ja suhteliselt detailselt, mitte ei piirduta tehniliste märkustega (a la proovin vastast trippida). Siis on üsna lihtne pakkuda välja lahendus, mis veenab.
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Brutus 17:59 17. Dets 2007

Eks me lahendasimegi olukorra lõpuks vaidluse ja loogikaga. Mõtlesin, et äkki keegi teab kohe mingit konkreetset vastust sellele.
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas logerin 18:03 17. Dets 2007

mis vastuseni te läbi vaidluse jõudsite?
Kõrini sellest, et k6ik kirjutavad siia midagi igavat.
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Brutus 9:24 18. Dets 2007

meil oli olukord selline, et 1 human grapples hundiga ja teine hunt ründas humanit ja proovis trippida. siis tekkis elav arutelu aga lõpptulemusena ei visanudki hunt trippimiseks vajalikku str chekki ära nii, et otseselt ei läinud vaja. Aga minumeelest jäi kokkulepe, et kui ära teeb, siis lendab human siruli ja grappliv hunt jääb jalgadele.
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas kage 15:51 18. Dets 2007

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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Brutus 16:49 18. Dets 2007

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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas kage 20:31 18. Dets 2007

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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Orz 22:27 19. Dets 2007

Kes teeb reeglid? Kes on majas peremees?
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Fil 15:03 20. Dets 2007

Jänest küpsetav murdjakääbik
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Re: 3.5e grapple->trip?

PostitusPostitas Brutus 15:54 20. Dets 2007

polnud jah kuidagi seotud :D
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